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The plans for ASO '13 are ....

 

We have made some changes for the coming ASO, I hope you will like them.

 

A 5 round tournament, where rounds 1-2-3 and 5 will - in each round - have 5 scenarios to choose between.

 

4th round will be a secret round with 3 unpublished scenarios from Gary Fortenbarry, Pete Shilling and hopefully Peter Struijff, ABS will have 5 levels.

 

We are planning to have an all weekend non-competitive, but a lot of fun, event running.

 

And if you haven't got Friday off but would like to participate anyway, then you could join the mini's Saturday and Sunday.

 

and

 

The tournament site will remain the same as this year; Akademisk Studenterkursus, which is a school located 2 km from central Copenhagen. It is possible to sleep at the tournament site - no showers available, but a body wash is possible using the washbasin :-)

 

Hotels are within 15 min's walking or 5 min's by cab.

 

We hope to see you in Copenhagen 22-24th of February 2013.

 

best regards

 

Michael and Bo

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The plans for ASO '13 are ....

 

We have made some changes for the coming ASO, I hope you will like them.

 

A 5 round tournament, where rounds 1-2-3 and 5 will - in each round - have 5 scenarios to choose between.

 

4th round will be a secret round with 3 unpublished scenarios from Gary Fortenbarry, Pete Shilling and hopefully Peter Struijff, ABS will have 5 levels.

That will only work if you do a strict theme tournament format: Otherwise you will need to bring with you more ASL-gear than ever before and players that doesn´t bring any stuff with them will have a harder time to burrow stuff from others player, and end up playing what other players can lend out.

 

A secret round is more time-consuming and that you end up playing a dog-scenario cannot be avoided.

 

How will the scenario selection process be handled when there is five scenarios to choose from?

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The plans for ASO '13 are ....

 

We have made some changes for the coming ASO, I hope you will like them.

 

A 5 round tournament, where rounds 1-2-3 and 5 will - in each round - have 5 scenarios to choose between.

 

4th round will be a secret round with 3 unpublished scenarios from Gary Fortenbarry, Pete Shilling and hopefully Peter Struijff, ABS will have 5 levels.

 

We are planning to have an all weekend non-competitive, but a lot of fun, event running.

 

And if you haven't got Friday off but would like to participate anyway, then you could join the mini's Saturday and Sunday.

 

and

 

The tournament site will remain the same as this year; Akademisk Studenterkursus, which is a school located 2 km from central Copenhagen. It is possible to sleep at the tournament site - no showers available, but a body wash is possible using the washbasin :-)

 

Hotels are within 15 min's walking or 5 min's by cab.

 

We hope to see you in Copenhagen 22-24th of February 2013.

 

best regards

 

Michael and Bo

Sounds a lot of fun! See you there!

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Our intention is that ASO should be a lot of fun and full of challenging scenarios- we are also planning to avoid any dog like scenarios :-) the 3 Designers - beginners as they are - are a bit nervous about this high and almost unreachable goal, but they have sworn an oath on the "Holy IIFT Table" to do their very best !

 

It will not be necessary to bring more ASL gear than you are used to, and we will take scenario length into consideration when choosing the Very-Very Secret scenarios.

 

We haven't decided how we will do the scenario selection yet, but we might copy the way the Albany tournament do it.

 

We will never return to Tøjhus museet, because the room has been converted to a storage room :-(

 

see some of you in Borås tomorrow

 

best regards

 

Michael

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Scenario selection is about to be finished within a week. 1st round will be a selection of older well balanced small ( off course :-) scenarios

 

at the moment it is:

 

FrF 51 "Bite of the Bassotto"

J 43 "3rd RTR in the Rain"

RPT 25 "Cornwall's Rum Ration"

FrF30 "Biderman's Escape"

SP 150 "The Legrew Maneuver"

 

If you want to influence the selection, then post your options and I will have a look at them. I will make the final list Tuesday next week.

 

best regards

 

Michael

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Hi Mattias....too late :-)

 

here is the full scenario list for ASO 2013

 

 

1. round

FrF 51 "Bite of the Bassotto"

J 43 "3rd RTR in the Rain"

RPT 25 "Cornwall's Rum Ration"

FrF30 "Biderman's Escape"

SP 150 "The Legrew Maneuver"

 

2. round;

DB100 "The Gateway" *

J151 "Messenger Boys"

TX 1 "Beware the Hare" *

ESG 91 "It's not over" *

BFP95 "Obian Highway" *

 

3. round

J155 "Margeret Mixer"

BFP "Knife in the Flank" *

AP 74 "Batty-P"

SP 205 "Mius Mischief"

AP 82 "Coriano"

 

 

4. round is secret

 

5. round

DB 95 "Spare the Pagoda" *

DB 99 "The Gin Drinkers Line"

AP 65 "Baw Drop" *

SP 213 "The Mighty have Fallen"

J160 "Squeeze Play"

 

.......................................

 

TX1 "Beware the Hare"

ASO SSR; "in VC change 30 CVP to 36 CVP"

SSR 4 add; These HIP units must be placed onboard concealed, at the start of German turn 5 ( If still HIP)

SSR 2; The 9-1 leader will always receive the emplacement TEM if in an AA GUN hex. When stacked with a Gun, the 9-1 is considered part of the crew or infantry manning the GUN for TH purposes and is eliminated on a CH with the crew/infantry manning the GUN. RS will be used if a K/KIA result occurs on the crew or infantry manning the GUN.

 

ESG 91 "It's not over";

Clarification, the French reinforcement group must be chosen before scenario start.

ASO SSR; delete one 437 from French initial OB.

 

DB 100 "The Gateway"

Clarification; The Americans may not setup ON the perimeter hexes; Q4 - H8 - H13 - Q18.

 

BFP 103 "Knife in the Flank";

ASO SSR; add an 8-0 to Russian OB

 

BFP 95 "Obian Highway";

ASO SSR; The Dug-in T70 may setup HIP. If setup in open ground and the opposing player have LOS with a GO KEU, it is placed onboard unconcealed. It may never gain concealment and lose it as pr the concealment gain/loss table for Vehicles.

 

DB 95 "Spare the Pagoda";

ASO SSR; Exchange 9-1 for 9-2 and two Japanese 447 start as striped 347's.

 

AP 65 "Baw Drop";

ASO SSR; In British OB exchange one initial OB LMG for an MMG and exchange two 457 for two 458.

 

best regards

 

Michael

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Jag gillar att ha allt på ett ställe, därför har jag kompilerat en sammanställning i bifogad PDF. Den saknar tyvärr scenario/runda, men det får man lösa på annat sätt.

 

Kommer kanske att uppdateras, och är kanske till glädje för nån... :)

 

We have added a pair of clarifications. And updated the rules section.

 

http://www.asl-so.dk/

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Vad ska vi nu prata om då?

 

The good old days,

when the IIFT 3.5 column disrupted all fair tournament scenarios ... ah, those were the days ...

 

The website has been further updated.

Now include a list of ASL gear needed to play all the scenarios. And another clarification.

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Notera att det finns fel i scenario-listningen på: http://www.asl-so.dk/scenarios.htm

 

Tre av Journal 10 scenarion står listade med fel scenario-nummer:

J151 Messenger Boys

J155 Margeret Mixer

J160 Squeeze Play

 

Skall vara:

J152 Messenger Boys

J156 Margeret Mixer

J151 Squeeze Play

 

Dom hade andra nummer ett tag men numrerades om senare i tidsordning. Det kan även ha införts andra ändringar efter om-numreringen så har

ASO skickat ut scenario-filer med dom gamal numren så kanske inte som scenariona är "up-to-date" med dom slutgiltiga som kom i Journal 10.

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Notera att det finns fel i scenario-listningen på: http://www.asl-so.dk/scenarios.htm

 

Tre av Journal 10 scenarion står listade med fel scenario-nummer:

J151 Messenger Boys

J155 Margeret Mixer

J160 Squeeze Play

 

Skall vara:

J152 Messenger Boys

J156 Margeret Mixer

J151 Squeeze Play

 

Dom hade andra nummer ett tag men numrerades om senare i tidsordning. Det kan även ha införts andra ändringar efter om-numreringen så har

ASO skickat ut scenario-filer med dom gamal numren så kanske inte som scenariona är "up-to-date" med dom slutgiltiga som kom i Journal 10.

 

Thanks Klas

There are no changes to the scenarios other than the added SSR to Squeeze Play (Crews may not abandon AFV's voluntarily). It was posted on the ASO website.

 

And

 

 

 

The ASO Website has been further updated:

- Added ABS for ASO 2013 to website

- Added ASO SSR to Squeeze play

- List of registered players has been updated.

 

http://www.asl-so.dk/

 

 

Bo

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ASO is now less than 4 weeks away

 

The ASO Website has been further updated]

- Added Scenario Information regarding Minitournaments

 

Tournament A: "Into the Unknown"

This mini tournament will consist of 3 scenarios that we can say absolutely nothing specific about.

 

Round 1 : Double-blind "Fog of War" Scenario.

Round 2 : One of the Scenarios from the Secret Round (Gary Fortenberry design)

Round 3 : One of the Scenarios from the Secret Round (Pete Shelling design)

 

Tournament B: Into the Rubbled city

This mini tournament will consist of 3 scenarios played on the "Festung Budapest" map. We will provide copies of the Map as needed.

 

Round 1 : FB18 "Red Banner days"

Round 2 : FB17 "Stalingrad Redux"

Round 3 : FB 4 "HKL 259"

 

 

- Updated list of registered players. Now stand at 46, Friendly Gamers included. We hope to be able to add a few more names to the list before the tournament.

 

http://www.asl-so.dk/

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16 Swedish players registered for ASO, and 47 all in all.

Melvin Falk, Martin Svärd, Mattias Rönblom, Christoffer Peyre, Andreas Carlsson, Mattias Bergwall, Erik Leander, Stefan Fiedler, Håkan Isaksson, Stefan Nilsson, Tomas Davidsson, Håkan Nilsson, Christopher hopper, Göran Anderson in the main tournament. Lars Thuring and Klas Malmström in Friendly gaming.

 

We have lots of space though, so don't hesitate to show up :-)

 

Best regards

 

Michael

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Andreas Larsson added to the Swedish ASO contingent. 49 players all in all.

 

Potential players should be aware that you don't need to play in the main tournament all 5 rounds. You can play two rounds Friday and ( if you lose one or two of the) continue into one of the two mini tournaments Saturday ( 2 rounds) and Sunday (1 round).

or you could play a friendly game Friday and jump into a mini tournament Saturday/ Sunday.

 

Is Tom Påhlsson, Sebastian Kalucza, Rasmus Johansson, Johan Fröding and Jerry Adamsson still active ASL players ?

 

best regards

 

Michael

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The ASO Website has been further updated:

- Added new ASO SSR

(In all scenarios, with building control, building hex control or building location control rubbled building hexes still counts for Victory Condition purposes. Note, falling rubble outside original building hexes does not count for Victory Condition Purposes. )

- Updated page for Friendly gaming with regards to equipment needed to be able to play the Fog of War scenarios

- Updated list of registered players. 49 total now.

 

http://www.asl-so.dk/

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Andreas Larsson added to the Swedish ASO contingent. 49 players all in all.

 

Potential players should be aware that you don't need to play in the main tournament all 5 rounds. You can play two rounds Friday and ( if you lose one or two of the) continue into one of the two mini tournaments Saturday ( 2 rounds) and Sunday (1 round).

or you could play a friendly game Friday and jump into a mini tournament Saturday/ Sunday.

 

Is Tom Påhlsson, Sebastian Kalucza, Rasmus Johansson, Johan Fröding and Jerry Adamsson still active ASL players ?

 

best regards

 

Michael

 

 

Very active we are now 5 players around Karlshamn who are playing "red barricades" once a week and we have during the last 3 years started up at least 10 "red barricades" campaigns though we have´nt finished any single one of them , there are always one side that "throw in the towel"

 

I hope that one day in my life i will get back to the best gaming convention that i ever have been on.

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Michael and I would like to thanks everyone who participated in a fun weekend of ASL. A total of 45 players took part in the weekend event. A nice improvement in numbers from 2012. We introduced some new things to the tournament experience this year and overall we felt it was quite successful. We will strive to build on that in 2014 and hope to see all of you, and others too, next year. Feedback is as always appreciated. We have already discussed how to improve.

 

The results for all games will be submitted to the AREA Rankings and scenarios will be added to ROAR.

 

Thanks

 

 

Bo Siemsen & Michael Hastrup-Leth

/ASO

 

Thanks for your effort that it takes to organize the tournament - although it was not very good compared to your better achievements the previous years. The chance to play the scenario that you prefer the most are in decline with 5-scenarios-per-round, and your scenario

selection process is less care-free than ever.

 

Hope your discussion of improvement is seen as an improvement by all, the new format with five scenarios per round is not very good (why not have 10 scenarios per round?) and now the secret is revealed that it is playtest scenario with unfinished/unclear playtesting/written VCs that spoils the whole reason of a tense/fun game.

 

You write all scenarios-games, the surprise round scenarios were apparently play-test scenarios, think that ROAR should not accept that these scenarios are submitted to their stats.

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Thanks Bo and Michael for an excellent weekend. I really like the scenarios I played, and it's always so nice to meet you guys. It's just a pity that you can't play, but I fully understand that the burden of tournament-directing makes it impractical.

 

Anyway, thanks for a splendid time, and keep up the good work. I hope to see you soon, in an environment were you guys get the opportunity to roll boxcars at critical moments.

 

Take care,

Erik

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Hej,

Kul att se lite bilder från Köpenhamn. Vad var det för bräden ni använde i "Hart attack" i den hemliga omgången? Var det något hemgjort? Det ser ut att ha större hexar.

Matts

 

7a som kommer i nästa Action Pack om Gary Fortenberry får till VCs så att de lätt kan missuppfattas av andra och Tournament directors i synnerhet - de ändrade VCs så att de blev lättare att vinna för britten men enligt Bo så blev det lättare för tysken han måst ha fått det om bakfoten.

 

Kartan var hemmagjord och dåligt ihoptejpad så att det blev luftbubblor när man la den platt på bordet - naturliga kullar :) , tyvärr hade de uppförstorat kartan så att det blev lättare att utföra VBM så man var tvungen att påpeka det och lösningen var att man måste mäta med två ihopsatta AFV brickor längs hexsid vid VBM.

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7a som kommer i nästa Action Pack om Gary Fortenberry får till VCs så att de lätt kan missuppfattas av andra och Tournament directors i synnerhet - de ändrade VCs så att de blev lättare att vinna för britten men enligt Bo så blev det lättare för tysken han måst ha fått det om bakfoten.

 

Really ?

Original vc were - ONE vp for the brits per af german afv destroyed. Aso vc were 0,5 vp for the brits per german afv destroyed (fru). that seems to benefit the germans.

 

It wouldn't be ASO if Mel wasnt unhappy about something.

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Really ?

Original vc were - ONE vp for the brits per af german afv destroyed. Aso vc were 0,5 vp for the brits per german afv destroyed (fru). that seems to benefit the germans.

 

It wouldn't be ASO if Mel wasnt unhappy about something.

Förstår att du ej citerar original VCs, eftersom där framkommer det tydligt att du fortfarande ej har förstått VCs.

 

"VICTORY CONDITIONS: The Allies win at game end if they control ≥ 7

buildings. Every two US AFV exited off the east edge, and each German AFV

eliminated, counts as a building Controlled (FRU)."

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"VICTORY CONDITIONS: The Allies win at game end if they control ≥ 7

buildings. Every two US AFV exited off the east edge, and each German AFV

eliminated, counts as a building Controlled (FRU)."

 

Så som jag tolkar denna så räknas varje tysk AFV som ett hus kontrollerat.

 

Samt att för varje två (FRU) US AFV som kör av brädet så räknas det som ett hus kontrollerat.

Mao:

1-2 AFV kör av brädet = 1 hus kontrollerat

3-4 AFV kör av brädet = 2 hus kontrollerat

5 AFV kör av brädet = 3 hus kontrollerat

 

Personligen har jag lite svårt att förstå varför det står "(FRU)" på slutet - om min tolkning är korrekt (vilket givetvis inte är säkert ),

så tycker jag att "(FRU)" borde ha stått så här istället, "Every two (FRU) US AFV..."

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Så som jag tolkar denna så räknas varje tysk AFV som ett hus kontrollerat.

 

Samt att för varje två (FRU) US AFV som kör av brädet så räknas det som ett hus kontrollerat.

Mao:

1-2 AFV kör av brädet = 1 hus kontrollerat

3-4 AFV kör av brädet = 2 hus kontrollerat

5 AFV kör av brädet = 3 hus kontrollerat

 

Personligen har jag lite svårt att förstå varför det står "(FRU)" på slutet - om min tolkning är korrekt (vilket givetvis inte är säkert ),

så tycker jag att "(FRU)" borde ha stått så här istället, "Every two (FRU) US AFV..."

 

Tror att han syftar på att 4 [5] vagnar exiterade och 3 [2] vagnar förstörda räknas som 3 hus kontrollerade,

enbart 3 tyska vagnar förstörda räknas som ett hus kontrollerat, Gunner Scott drog den slutsatsen efter ha läst

VCs för första ggn och ingen ifrågesatta hans inlägg, Gary Fortenberry frågade vad som ansågs vara oklart som var så tydligt skrivet märkte du då att ingen gick i svaromål.

 

Kan bero på att byggnads nivå -1 och nivå -1 är enligt honom ej samma sak???

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Fann detta, tyvärr verkar Gary förolämpad när Scott föreslog en förbättring.

 

Scott skrev: Ok, took me a bit to reread the VC a few times, but if from what I can grok, the Allies building control requirements are reduced for every two US AFV's exit and each German AFV destroyed.

 

Probably an easier way to word it I would think.

 

Scott

 

Gary skrev: Yeah, but you are a verified troll imbecile.

 

P.S. even my iPad knows you....it constantly tries to spellcheck Holst as dolts.

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detta var vad jag delgavs efter vi hade valt ut scenario och jag satt och tittade på det.

Melvin skrev:

hmm.. so when the TD told me it was poorly written and these sentences should be replaced with the following instead......

One US AFV exited counts as a half building (FRU), and each German AFV eliminated counts as a building Controlled by the British (FRU).

 

"hmm" to the extend that Michael and I had tested it with that VC.

So with a bit of a stressful situation that was the version of the VC we felt most comfortable sticking with at ASO when we had a quick decision to make. Whatever words I chose when trying to clarify it to you means little in that regard. I had some information that I needed to deliver. Who cares what I called it.

 

Självklart spelade det roll hur de beskrev "poorly" original VCs, det gjorde att jag trodde att de visste vad de gjorde och hade rådfrågat Gary om hans VCs. istället hade de missuppfattat VCs och ändrat balansen till tyskens nackdel, utan att fråga Gary måhända känner de till hans läsförmåga och vågade ej fråga för att låta som "imbecills", ja enligt honom förstås.

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